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The battalion commander before LTC Holt was Thomas A. Rehm, January 1969-June 1969. I do not know what LTC Holt looked like. Larry G
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I served with Alpha Company 1/2 from March 1969 to March 1970. May 12, 1969 at Quan Loi we lost 11 good men. SPC4 Freeman, SPC Gray and PFC Demings took me under their wings as I was a "cherry". They died that night. I will never, ever forget. Served in Lai Khe, Dau Tieng, Song Be and Quan Loi. After I returned home in 1970 I enlisted in the Kentucky National Guard in 1973 and served in Desert Shield and Desert Storm in 1990 & 1991. Retired in 1997 as a 1st Sgt. I was proud to be a "Black Scarve". I always say if you are gonna be a big one be a "Big Red One". The 1st Infantry was the best.
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I was alpha co. 1/2 69-70 Mike. Walked point entire tour. Looking for my brothers was in same areas at same times. Can you help? God Bless Black Scarves. Steve
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[QUOTE=Steve Gray]Joe, Wow we were in the same company just a different platoon. I bet if I saw a your picture I'd recall you. Hey give me a call at 270-789-1395 best if after 6 PM EST. Do you remember our CO Scully and our 1st Sgt was a tall, big bald man that I can't recall his name. They left then it was Cpt Coker and 1st Sgt Cabrerra. Both were good leaders. I remember them quite well. Let's talk about our brothers we have lost contact with over all these years.
I was alpha co. 1/2 69-70 Mike. Walked point entire tour. Looking for my brothers was in same areas at same times. Can you help? God Bless Black Scarves. Steve Steve Joe Fair
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I was with C company 1st Battalion 2nd infantry Feb 14 1967 to Feb 1968. I was in the 3rd platoon. I have talked to Cliff Roberson and would love to hear from him again. Cliff if you would e-mail me again and maybe your phone # I would give you a call. I am the one that had the monkey. I will send you some pictures of it. Would love to hear from some of you guys. We had two cooks killed one being Phillips the night we got rockets in at Phouch Vinh. I was and still proud to have served with some of the greatest guys in the world. I knew Doc Grouche And Dr Frank Gerstel. I was there when Dr gerstel was killed along with several others. He and Canouch were trying to save Red Bachelor. I believe we had seven killed that day.
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Warren, check your back door mail. Welcome Home. Juan B 2/2 1964 to 1967. Vietnam 1965 to 1970.
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Hi Warren, Welcome Home Brother! I was there as well, Delta Company RTO. November Platoon. We were sent in to secure the L.Z. for the Dust Off Chopper! It was a very bad day. After the airstrike. I remember seeing them carry the body of Doc. Gerstel off the battle field after the firefight. I won't go into detail what i saw. But we had to carry out some of the equipment on strechers back to the NDP. And i held his hement in my hands. It was hit by a snipers bullet. We were taking fire from the trees due west of us as well. Warren do you know a guy! Who went by the nickname Pizza? He was there and carried one wounded guy out before he was hit in the Groin area, I remember watching the medics work on him while the firefight was still going on. I'm in touch with Pizza. He lives in New York I beleive. Luther Patton Black Scarf Battalion 1/2 Delta Company, RTO Recon. Platoon 29er RTO, Point Man Nam June 67' June 68'
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I was there when Dr Frank Gerstel was killed. It was Canoot that had been shot and Dr Gerstel and Red Bachelor went out to help him when they were shot. I had just got back from
R@R and they flew us to the field because our Battalion was in a firefight. If I remember correctly we lost 7 men that day. It was that day that Canoot was killed. I don't remember pizza.
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Gentlemen, I have checked the casualty roster for the 1 st Battalion and the following were all KIA on 4 October 1967, these are the only KIA’S for that day. GERSTEL, HOWARD M. Capt. HHC SAULER, CHARLIE F. SP-4, Company C SCHNEIDER, TERRENCE H. SP-4, HHC SCHRENK, DONALD G SP-4, HHC VERLINDEN, CRAIG A, SGT HHC There is no listing for a CANOUCH or CANOOT (your spelling) or anything close on our casualty roster or the Wall. Larry G
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Hi Warren the guy who was called Pizza (his nickname) was John Fratangelo. He was with Recon. 29er that is why you propably dont know him. If you were in a line company. Paul Charles who was with Recon. 29er was awarded the Distinguish Service Cross because of his action on that day of the ambush. LBJ would eventually pin the medal on him, when LBJ made a trip to Viet Nam after the October 4th ambush. There was a photo of the cermonies in the American Travler Paper. I joined up with Recon. 293er Platoon after the Battle of Hill 172, Dec. 8th 1967. I got to know Paul Charles, he was a good soldier. Luther Patton Black Scarf Battalion 1/2
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Here is a link to Paul Charles DSC citation. Haven't found the picture on the web. Cantigny may have a copy of the American traveler.
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I just found this message board today. I was with Mike Platoon B Co August 69 until the Division came home in March 70. Is there anyone here that was there at the same time?
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I have just learned that “CANOOT(K)” is a slang word for Canadian. Another spelling is CANUCK, like the name of Vancouver's NHL team. Charlie F Sauler was from Nova Scotia, thus the nickname. Bob Brown, welcome to the 2 nd Infantry message board! I am sure that there are guys out there that were there when you were. I would suggest that you also post your information on the ROLL CALL thread located at the very top of the message board, that is what that one is for. I have one question, did you return to the states in March or were you transferred to another unit? If so what unit? Larry G
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Larry, I was sent to the 4/23(M), 25th Division. Our AO was around Nui Ba Dhin, aka, The Black Virgin Mountain outside Tay Nhin. The 4/23 was part of the safari into Cambodia in May 70.
I had the pleasure of going to a Bravo Co reunion in Nashville several years ago. There were around 15 of my squad at the reunion including my squad leader and the first Doc I had. I had previously reunited with my platoon leader at a 4/23 reunion in Washington DC. He told me where our CO (CPT Wilson) lives about 60 miles from where I live.
Sad to say, but I understand that CPT Wilson's health is not good
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Bob, welcome home. Check your back door mail. Juan . B co 2/2 1964 to 1967. Vietnam 1965 to 1970.
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Bob, Welcome Home! Thanks for the information about your tour of duty in Vietnam. I know that quite a few troops were transferred to other unit when the battalions left Vietnam, that is why I asked. It had to be a great thrill to meet up with all the guys you served with! Have you stayed in contact with any of them since? The CO you speak of, would that be CPT Jerry Wilson from Anniston ALA? I served with HHC,2/2, 66-67 and I am the historian for the association. Take care and stay in contact on the board. Larry G
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Bob Brown "Welcome Home" and welcome to the 2nd Reg. website brother, if I can be of any help please feel free to ask, mike ogden 1/2 HHC Recon Patrol BRO '68'-'69'
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Yes, CPT Jerry Wilson of Anniston, AL. And yes, I am still in contact with several from my company and platoon, including my platoon leader, LT Dave Hollar.
I highly recommend to anyone who has a chance to go to a reunion of those he served with. I cannot begin to explain the feeling of seeing them after over 35 years...now over 40 for most Nam vets. There ain't no BS with them, we were all there and know what we went through.
To the best of my knowledge, those of us who had less than 10 months in-country were transferred to other divisions/units. Those who had more than 10 months came home with the battalion colors.
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Thanks, Mike. Welcome home to you too.
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Larry, let me know what I can do to help you with the battalion history. I've found that I have blocked out some memories, but, since I'm in touch with others from my company I might be able to come up with a few tidbits. Dave Hollar is in the process of writing a book about his time in Nam.
Warren [Chuck} Conner
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I would love to hear from any of the guys that were with charlie co. 1/2 Feb 1967 Feb 1968. Willy Green,Krakow point man,Rubin Smith and others. I also would love to hear from Lonnie Up church. Anyone knows him let me know. I also would love to hear from our first Sgt. I would to hear from McKee from Tenn. Anyone with our Batt. Someone let me know when you guys are going to meet in Teen. Thanks I have forgotten a lot of names. I thought Dr Gerstel's name was Frank but it was Howard. I should remember since it has not been 50 yrs yet. Take care Warren Conner
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Bob, I am glad you made the comment about attending a reunion, it is great seeing guys you served with and even if there isn't any there you know, you still get to meet and become friends with new fellow soldiers. It is great that you stay in contact with your comrades from Vietnam. I am actually doing the history of the regiment since its origins in 1791 until the present. The wiki site on the 2nf Infantry is mostly my input, it was started by Jason Mitchell (Bosnia/Kosovo) but I have been maintaining it for quite a while. What is on the site is the basics of several thousand pages of material and I am always learning more. An tibbits from your time in Vietnam is appreciated by me and all that come to the message board. I look forward to reading Dave Hollar's book, hope it gets published. You still in Franklin? Take care, Larry G
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To let all know what a great battalion physician Howard Gerstel was, I want to share a little about the day he was killed. I was CO of Bravo Company that Day (Aug 67-March 68).
Bravo had been lead company on the battalion ops for some time before October 4, 1967 and was tasked with leading out behind Recon Platoon on the battalion patrol that morning. As I recall it was around 2230 the night before when LTC O'Connor called me to say that Delta had been cleared by division to go on patrol the next morning. Mortimer O'Connor was changing the order of march for the next day with Recon leading followed by Charlie, Delta and Alpha. Bravo would get a stand-down day and would defend the NDP - the first we had had in a long time.
Early the next morning before the battalion lined up, CPT Gerstel came by Bravo's CP with a fellow from Bravo that he was evacuating for ring worms. (When I had taken command in August that year, we were very short on troops because of an operation in July when a lot of Black Scarves had contacted malaria from the VC in the area. I had required several men in the rear [supoosedly recovering from malaria] to return to the NDP). Gerstel wanted to be sure that I knew that the fellow with ring worms was not "goldbricking."
Doc Gerstel insisted that the guy drop his pants and show me the worm sores. I kept telling Gerstel that that was not necessary, but he always wanted CO's to know that all evacs for illness were legitimate.
After the ambush and Rope Six's (Charlie CO) command group was pinned down, CPT Gerstel and the Bn medic (who had been in Bravo Company but I had him transferred to Bn Aid Station because he was fairly short and had recently had a baby) stopped by Bravo's CP on their way to the battlefield.
I tried to get Howard to wait, telling him it would be our job to bring the wounded back to him at the NDP as soon as Colonel O'Connor gave us the word. Gerstel insisted on going on out to help the wounded.
Within a couple of minutes I monitored on the radio that Dr. Gerstel and my old medic had been killed.
The ambush site was so close to the Bn NDP that Bravo killed one or two snipers in the trees that we spotted from the NDP. J.J. Adams (who follows this board and attends reunions) was an FO/RTO assigned to Bravo and was wounded that day in the NDP from incoming during the battle (probably an RPG).
Bravo Company policed up the battlefield after the fight. I could write more about what I think happened that day - like the fact that the main enemy automatic weapon position had been assaulted but there was a "dud" US grenade in the bunker and a US KIA draped over the bunker! But - 1967 is a long time ago.
I just think everyone should know what heroes our medics were.
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Hi Bill, I suppose you have read my post on the Ambush October 4, 1967. I was just thinking, have you tried to make contact with these two Brave Medics familie's, to let them know what we know, on how brave their Loved one's were on that day. And the fine human beings they were! That cared so much for their men. That is if they want to know!! I have made contact with families of friends of mine that were killed in the Nam. Just to let the Loved Ones know that their loved one's were well respected and were good soldiers and that they did not die in vain. I knew there were Snipers in the trees West of us, were we had set up a perimeter for the Dust Off Chopper. Luther Patton Black Scarf Battalion 1/2 Delta Company, RTO Recon. 29er Platoon RTO, Point Man Nam June 67' June 68'
John (JJ) Adams
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Welcome Home BRother !! Red Batchelor died but since he was in the arty FO section, he was not listed as a 1/2 Inf KIA, since he was assigned to 5th FA. Look forward to seeing you at the next Regt reunion. JJ DRAC96R Sep 67 - Jun 68