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David Nothwang
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I just found this site to night. Would like to say welcome home to everyone.I was with A 1/2 from oct 69 until they came home. Most guy's called me Notty.

Hope you are all doing good.

                   

                          Later

Joe Fair
Reply with quote  #102 
Welcome Home David.

I was also with A 1/2. March 1969 to March 1970.
1st Platoon (Lima).

I'm sure I'll remember you if I saw your picture.

I have been in touch with Cary Dawkins and Steven Gray.  Do you remember them?

Let's get in touch and swap some history.

Do you recall SP4 Pringle who was accidentally shot and killed by his buddy on the Huey flight line at Dau Tieng in December? What a tragedy.  That image has remained in my mind all these years.

Cpt Coker and 1sgt Cabrerra were great leaders.

Joe Fair
Steve Gray
Reply with quote  #103 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Fair
Welcome Home David.

I was also with A 1/2. March 1969 to March 1970.
1st Platoon (Lima).

I'm sure I'll remember you if I saw your picture.

I have been in touch with Cary Dawkins and Steven Gray.  Do you remember them?

Let's get in touch and swap some history.

Do you recall SP4 Pringle who was accidentally shot and killed by his buddy on the Huey flight line at Dau Tieng in December? What a tragedy.  That image has remained in my mind all these years.

Cpt Coker and 1sgt Cabrerra were great leaders.

Joe Fair
Steve Gray
Reply with quote  #104 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Fair
Welcome Home David.

I was also with A 1/2. March 1969 to March 1970.
1st Platoon (Lima).

I'm sure I'll remember you if I saw your picture.

I have been in touch with Cary Dawkins and Steven Gray.  Do you remember them?

Let's get in touch and swap some history.

Do you recall SP4 Pringle who was accidentally shot and killed by his buddy on the Huey flight line at Dau Tieng in December? What a tragedy.  That image has remained in my mind all these years.

Cpt Coker and 1sgt Cabrerra were great leaders.

Joe Fair
Bob Brown
Reply with quote  #105 
For those of you how might know CPT Jerry Wilson (B/1/2; 69), he is back in the hospital.  He had surgery to install a port for dialysis.
Juan
Reply with quote  #106 

Welcome Home.

I would like to let you know that we have a reunion at Pigeon Forge,TN on the 17-20 of May 2012. We have lot of the troops from the 1/2 BN attending. If you need info on the reunion please send me an e-mail with your address so I can mail it to you.

Thank you.

Juan

B 2/2 1964 to 1967.

Vietnam 1965 to 1970.

Thomas Hobday
Reply with quote  #107 

Just found this website. I was the FO attached to Captain Slussear and A Company, 1st of the 2nd. Infantry from March to August 1966. Regarding the story of the black scarves being developed by Lt. Col. Prillaman after the battle of Lo Go, on April 30, the description in this blog is absoutely accurate. At that time, we were making extended search and destroy missions along the river separating Vietnam from Cambodia. We had discovered a major NVA base camp that contained a uniform  factory. A great supply of black uniform cloth was captured. We were ambushed at Lo Go and as I recall we fired several thousand rounds of artillery into the long arm of the ambush across the river into Cambodia. This action made the front page of the NY Times, but the record of firing across the border was eliminated from the Operation Birhmingham Official Report. As I recall, almost all of us had developed some kind of neck protection to keep the leaves and red ants from falling down our backs. After the battle, I cut a square piece of uniform material measuring about 1 square meter. I made a scarf and wore it that day. Col Prillaman saw the scarf and had them made for each member of the Battalion. Company A's had a red 1/2 embroidered in the lower tip of the scarf. Since I was attached to the company and not officially a member, i kept the original scarf and cut a red 1/2 out of other material and sewed it on the original scarf where the official ones are embroidered. I still have it stored in my Vietnam box somewhere. The Dracula call sign came from the fact that the 1/2 was the night fighting battalion of the First Divisiion. Col Prillamon felt that Dracula was fitting for the kind of night operations we were going out on fairly regularly.

I still consider myself a member of the 1/2. Capt. Slussear came home about August 1966 and returned to Vietnam a year later where he was killed. I still consider him one of the finest men I have ever met.

Tom Hobday

A - 1/2 March thru August 1966

mike ogden
Reply with quote  #108 
 Thomas I would like to thank you for sharing and having a
 
part in the history and making of the Black Scarves, I'll always
 
hold the highest regard for those that offered the ultimate
 
sacrafice with the Black Scarf Battalion of the Big Red One!!!
 
   Welcome Home BROther and Welcome the 2nd Reg. Web!!
 
        mike ogden
        1/2 HHC Recon 29er
        BRO '68'-'69'
Eddie Oliver
Reply with quote  #109 

Welcome home Thomns. I also would like to thank you for you post on the 1/2. I served with this fine outfit from 6/68-3/69. I would also say to anyone who served with the 1/2 to keep the post coming. I truly enjoy reading about the happenings that took place during our time in the RVN.

 

Eddie Oliver

Co C 1/2, 6/68-3/69

Juan
Reply with quote  #110 
The Big happening for the 1st Bn 2nd Inf was when the 2nd Bn 2nd Inf trained them for Vietnam in 1965 at Leominser (Misspell) park outside Ft Devens. We went all in the same ship to Nam The Blatchford.
 
It's took 22 days for the beautiful Cruise trip to Nam. By the way while I was in Nam, I went to the area where we landed at Vung Tau, it have change a lot.
Take care
Juan
Reply with quote  #111 
Welcome home Thomas, I got your mail. Please check your back door mail.
Juan.
Larry G
Reply with quote  #112 

Thomas,

Thank you for confirming the origins of the Black Scarves that the 1st Battalion wore in Vietnam.  I will be placing your recollections in the both the battalion and regiment history.  I will also forward what you wrote to the active 1st Battalion so that they can add the information to their files.

Major Alexander M. Slussear was KIA on 16 August 1968 while serving as an advisor with MACV Team 65 HQ.

Larry G
Historian
John Kerins
Reply with quote  #113 

I wonder if Charlie ever knew where the material for Blackscarves came from? I hope he did. It probably would have really pissed him off.

John (JJ) Adams
Reply with quote  #114 
Thomas,

Welcome Home and to the Board. Like you I was in an arty FO section, but I am still a proud Black Scarf battalion member. My first company CO is on the board, CPT Hearn.

DRAC96R
B Co Sep 67 - Jul 68
Luther Patton
Reply with quote  #115 
To those who it may Concern.
Patton will post a message on this board at a late date!! And the subject will be? The Black Scarf Battalion and how it was originally formed. I do believe that Mr. Hobday is somewhat incorrect? 
Cutting a piece of black cloth  after The Battle Of Lo Go, and shaping it into a black scarf etc etc.?
The Rest Of The Story Tomorrow, Stayed Tuned!!!!
 
Patton
Black Scarf Battalion 1/2
Delta Company RTO
Recon. 29er Platoon RTO, Point Man
Viet Nam June 67' June 68'
NOLI ME TANGERE
GOD BLESS AMERICA
Luther Patton
Reply with quote  #116 
The Rest Of The Story.  For the most part  some of you may know that I have been working on a book about "The Black Scarf Battalion" in Viet Nam.  I have been collecting information, photos, After Action Reports, Morning Reports, personnel stories from former Black Scarfs etc.
I have made contact with publisher's, author's of fiction and non fiction books! Seeking out for ideas on what and how to write the book.
To me it seems that when a story wants to be written about a certain group or subject that has to do with the Viet Nam War..... everyone wants to be in it, and they may not have anything to do with the subject per say! 
 In other words saying they were with the Black Scarfs and formed the first scarf from the material that was captured after The Battle Of LO GO!  500 bolts to be exact.
The reason why Mr.Hobday is incorrect, stating that he formed the first Black Scarf, and that LT. COL. Prillaman took notice and then had the scarf's made for the rest of the Battalion 1/2. Is in correct! And the reason why I know this to be incorrect is that I'm in touch with no other than the Daughter of LT. COL. Richard L. Prillaman. The Father Of The Black Scarf Battalion! 
She has in her possession!! Her dads journal, writings, picture's, his Black Scarf and the most important thing, her conversations with her dad on how the Black Scarf's came about etc. etc.
And Mr. Hobday one other thing!!! I hate to inform you, but your not a true Black Scarf Member, you probably would like to be!!!!! I think for the most part. That most of The Black Scarf's on this board or not would probably agree with me.  If you were not in the 1/2 how can you be a Black Scarf Member officially. Or consider yourself as to be one! NOTTA!
  Not in my books!!!

You mentioned a CPT. Slussear!!
Alexander Martin Slussear Major, MOS, Operations and Training Staff Officer (G3, S3)
Unit ADV Team 65, HQ MACV ADVISORS, MACV
START TOUR 04/06/68
Causality Date: 08/16/68
Location: Sa Dec Province, South Viet Nam
that Province is in Four Corp The Delta.
This would be his second tour??

I'm in touch with those that were there at The Battle of LO GO During Operation Birmingham, picture's included.  

Anyone can come on this board and read the postings and can learn alot from them, and then use the information to promote themselves in the eyes of other's.
What say you?
 
Luther Patton
Black Scarf Battalion 1/2
Delta Company, RTO,
Recon. 29er Platoon, RTO, Point Man
Viet Nam June 67' June 68'
NOLI ME TANGERE 


  
Luther Patton
Reply with quote  #117 
Let me add on other thing. LT. COL. Richard R. Prillamans Daughter and I are putting this book together.  So for those of you that were in The 1/2 Black Scarfs, and would like to tell of your experience good or bad while serving with the 1/2 Black Scarfs please e-mail me with your personnel story and two picture's of you and or of you and your buddies.
Full name:
Single or was you married when you arrived in Viet Nam:
Date Of Birth:
When you entered the Army:
Rank:
Where you trained:
How did you arrive in Viet Nam? Plane or ship:
Company, Platoon:
What was your first impression upon arriving:
How did you feel when they gave you your first Black Scarf!
Were you wounded:
Did you loose a buddy:
I know its painful for all of us to write about these things, but how can one write a book unless you express your feelings etc.  What better medicine than to write about it.  That is what most counselor's would tell you to do. Is to write of your experience, it will make you feel better.  The book would honor all of those who gave their all.
If and when this book is published, COL. Prillamans Daughter and I have decided to give a percentage of the sales to The Big Red One Scholarship fund for those that lost a loved one during the Iraq, and Afghanistan War.
Thank You!
The Black Scarfs were feared by the Viet Cong  and what the Black Scarfs  represented, Dracula, and to avoid them if at all possible. A captured Viet Cong document stated!!!!!! Avoid The Black Scarfs.
L. Patton
Black Scarf Battalion 1/2 
Thomas Hobday
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Mr. Patton: I am sorry to read your response to the information I submitted to this site. I was attempting to shed light on questions i read about the origins of the black scarf. I was unaware of the reverence that had been attached to that symbol and the call sign Dracula. I have no intention of inserting myslef into history or becoming a member of the "Black Scarfs." If you read  my memo clearly, it says "I consider myself a member of the 1/2nd Infantry." I honestly don't care if you accept me or not. I served with then Capt. Slussear and then Lt. Col. Prillaman for about five months. They awarded me with a Purple Heart and a Bronze Star when my tour of duty was over. They both considered me a member of the 1/2nd. and that Is all I care about. I spoke with Lt. Gen. Prillaman on the phone while he was retired on his farm at Amherst a few years ago. We had a wonderful conversation with a lot of memories revisited. He invited me to stop by when I was on the East Coast next. Unfortunately, I was not able to get back there in time. I wish you good luck with your book.

 

Larry G
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Luther you being a huge jerk and owe Thomas Hobday an apology.  Who the hell are you to decide that someone who served with the 1/2 as an FO but wasn't actually assigned, on paper, to the battalion, basically, a want-a-be.  The man spent 6 months with them!  What he wrote sure didn’t deserve that kind of attack.  That's like the VFW telling us Vietnam vets it wasn't a real war.  I suppose that also means that anyone that served with the 1-2 from October 1965 to 30 April 1966 prior to the instituting of the Black Scarf do not count either.  Next you will be attacking all those that have served and are serving with the 1st Battalion since 2008 and proudly wear a Black Scarf and call themselves Black Scarves also.  I, for one, have lost all respect for you.

 

Larry G

Juan
Reply with quote  #120 
Luther Patton, you need to back off and apologize to Mr. Tom Hbday. The gentleman was with you battalion before you was and by the way he went to Nam with me and the on the same ship, when the 1/2 and 2/2 went to Vietnam. He was with the 1/5 artillery and went to the 1st Bn 2nd Inf 2nd Bde as an (FO) for the artillery--those (FO) spend a lot in the field humping to woods, I know that because I use to work with the FO from the artillery since I was an FO for the 81 MM of the company. Mr. Hobday pull more field duty than any other officer. Most of the officers pull 6 month in the line companies and then they went to an office job out in other areas.
 
It is great what you are doing about the book you are writing, also I am in contact with Ms Prillaman and her daughter, they were at the reunion last year as my guest. They are planning to come to the reunion on May 17-20- 2012.
 
 I would like to suggest for you to get in touch with Mr Hobday and talk to him--maybe you may learn something from him too, like I did.
 
Send me an E-Mail and I will talk to you.
 
Take care and remember--never jump in a river without finding how dip it is....
Juan .
B co 2/2 1964 to 1967-Vietnam 1965 to 1970
Tom Hobday
Reply with quote  #121 

Thanks Guys: the last two memos remind me of when I was attached to the 1/2nd. I could always count on someone having my back! Thanks! Feels like the old days.

"Wild Bill"
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Luther
You are way off base. As a former Company Commander, I considered my Artillery Forward Observer a member of my Company and an "Old Guard" (3rd U.S. Infantry). I concur with Larry. You owe Tom Hobday an apology. 

CPT W.K. Benson, USA-Ret
DMOR
Co B, 2/2 Inf
12/65-10/66
Luther Patton
Reply with quote  #123 
I have not had time to reply to Mr. Hobday post. Like the Saint said I should of tested the depth of creek before I jumped in.
To YOU Mr. Hobday I hope you will except my most sincere apololgy, as well as the other's on this board and to The Men of The Black Scarfs that are now serving! 
I was good friends with our Artillery FO.  For I know they had to hump the same jungle and endure the same hardships as we.
And I except the fact that LT. COL. Prillaman made you and honorary member of The Black Scarf Battalion then I salute you Sir!  And I do salute you.
I will know better next time to check the persons back ground before jumping into the creek.
I Pray for our troops everyday and night.
Let me just say Mr. Hobday WELCOME HOME SIR! JOB WELL DONE!
Luther Patton
Black Scarf Battalion 1/2
Nam June 67' June 68'
Thomas Hobday
Reply with quote  #124 

Thank you for the apology Mr. Patton.

It is easy for an FO to feel somewhat like a black sheep.

I never felt that way in Co A, 1/2nd. 

Obviously, you did not understand the situation, and I accept your apology.

Thank You

Tom

FO, A Company, 1/2nd. Infantry, March to August 1966. 

Luther Patton
Reply with quote  #125 
Mr. Hobday,
 Thank you so much for excepting my apology.  
I would hope and Pray that we could work together as well as the other Black Scarfs on the book.  And you know its just not about The Black Scarfs! But the other support they had during Operations,  such as Birmingham  the Second Of The Second, the artillery 1/5, B Battery 2/13, A troop, 1/4 Cav. 1/28th, 2/16, 2/18th.  Everyone had a big part in making this large Operation Birmingham a successful one.  As well as others that were to come.
 
Let me just say that when I was a little kid i always dreamed about serving in the Artillery. There was a small creek that ran in front of my house.  So i built a little fort.  I had the idea of taking a long cardboard tube that carpet came in and fashioned a cannon out of it that would shoot little balls out of it and it actually worked.
On Operation Quyet Thang March 68, April 7th 68' i made friends with one of the 105 crews in our NDP.  They were firing the 105 and i asked them if they would let me load it. Something that had dreamed of doing all of my life.  So they said sure you can load it, so i did.  But was not allowed to pull the laynard.
Here in my computer room i have a 105 artillery shell with the casing all intact but no explosive in the shell. It has on the bottom of the casing 1968.
I for one thought we had a lot of sand bags to fill being a grunt, until i saw on how many those artillery boys had to fill, I think i asked one of them and they said around two thousand sand bags! Does that sound about right!
The After Action Report for Birmingham says that 12,832 HE rounds,
Willie Peters, 65, and Illumination was 17 rounds were fired. It say that B 2/13 was attached to the 1/5 Arty.
 
Forty Four years ago tomarow I lost two good buddie's at The Battle Of Bu Dop. 1967. James Arthur Snook , and Willie Lee Shegog.  1/28th Black Lions.  RIP.
 
I have a Delta Black Scarf tattered and torn, that Black Scarfs have been signing, and then I will leave it at The Wall in D.C. your more than welcome to sign it as well Sir.
The Saint has been wanting me to attend the reunion in Piegon Forge.  If things work out maybe i can attend and if you are there we can have a beer and talk, and you as well other Black Scarfs can sign the Scarf, that have not signed it as of yet.
One other thing Sir! You can just call me Luther.
Luther
Black Scarf 1/2  
 
 
  
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