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Robert Brown
Reply with quote  #126 
I was with the 1/2 in March 70 when the Division came home.  Because I only had six months in-country I was sent to the 25th Division and assigned to the 4/23(M) Tomahawks. 

In 2003 I made contact with a Yahoo group for the 4/23 and joined.  Since then we formed an association and have had several reunions.  A distinguished member of not only our association, but also several term board member, was a FO attached to one of the line companies.  Every Tomahawk that I've met, either on line or at a reunion has welcomed him as one of us.  The same goes for all our medics.  As you will recall, they were assigned to a medical unit then attached to us in the field.

IMO, if you humped the boonies with us, ate the same c-rats, slept in the same rain soaked jungle/rubber and had the same gooks trying to kill you, you are, regardless of your MOS or company assignment,  in fact my brother and member of MY battalion, either the 1/2 or the 4/23.   

Welcome home, brothers.  


Roy Marshall
Reply with quote  #127 

 As all can see the Black Scarf means alot to all whom were in the 1/2 in Nam. I have heard many stories about how the Black Scarf was started. Talking to Luther my brother, he would like to know how and when it was started. He has talked to many people about this. We are concern about whom wear the scarf. I still have my first scarf from D 1/2 67-68 and it still brings chills to me went I hold it in my hands. It brings back good memory's of all the Black Scarves I served with in Nam and of course the bad memory's.

 

Roy D.

Robin Prillaman Lessig
Reply with quote  #128 
I want to say a word or two about this topic. Dad was so proud of his soldiers, and felt such a deep responsibility to them all, and now I know that they loved him right back, and trusted him with their lives....the Black Scarves were meant to be useful, and to help prevent dangerous standing around while removing ants from one's shirt. There were lots of other ways to use them, and a nice benefit was the little moral booster that came along with having something no one else had. They were never meant to be divisive. The soldiers who stood and fought and walked all those miles in the jungle with him, or he with them, are the reason the battalion has the proud history that it does, no matter how the scarves came to be. Dad was always a little amazed, but very proud, of the proportions that it grew to. The Black Scarves would not be who they are today, if those men had not been the strong, courageous, proud men that they were. I am told by CSM Woodward that the soldiers in the unit in Afghanistan right now, proudly defend the Scarf as part of the uniform, and each must know the history of the unit and the poem about the Black Scarves when they come into the unit or go for promotion. 
I appreciate Luther's desire to share the history of the unit, and for the soldiers who want to tell their part of the story to share what they will....and I appreciate every single person who was there from the day Juan landed on the shores, to the end of the war in Saigon. And I want to hear what everyone has to say to include the fellow who worked next to him for all those months. Dad showed me letters he got from the soldiers who looked him up, and he would seem so surprised that he still mattered to them!  I hope someday that I can figure out a way to add something to Luther's book, that will tell everyone what an extaordinary, unique, and incredible person my father was for his entire career and life.  I look forward to meeting more of the men and their families at the next reunion, as well!
Again, thank you all, so much for your desire to keep the unit's history alive and honest. EVERYone's story matters.

Robin Prillaman Lessig 
Luther Patton
Reply with quote  #129 
Thank you so much Robin for posting!  I would Loved to of met your Dad and served under his command in any War.
And Gentlemen; I did not ask Robin to post this message.  In case you may be wondering.
God Bless You Robin!
Thanks Roy D.
Luther Patton
Black Scarf Battalion 1/2
Delta Company, RTO
Recon. Platoon 29er RTO, Point Man 
n0gungh0
Reply with quote  #130 

     I was a Forward Observer with C, 1/2, First Infantry for 11 months, arriving January 1966.  I am new at this, and typically don’t join in on postings to websites.  I found this site about a week ago.    In a memo pad I have have from Vietnam (one of the only possessions from that year) there's a briefing for an operation near Quan Loi (June 19660, including instructions from brigade that everyone was to “wear the scarves.”)

     I was wounded twice in Vietnam (once on the evening of 29 April just south of Lo Go on the eve of the battle of Lo Go) and once in August.  I lost my first friend (first recon sergeant) three days prior to that in an ambush as he was trying to rescue a medic (who was also killed that day).  I lost my second (also a recon sergeant in August of that year, in a night attack by VC. This is all from a TOE section of 3 people.   

     All were dear friends and are missed.  I have fond memories of lasting friendships from that year, as part of belonging to the ½.  Two wounds for me, three dead friends and I am being told that we didn’t belong because we had the wrong MOSs.  Is this site not been a friendly LZ.

 

Robert Brown
Reply with quote  #131 
n0gungh0,  have you not read all the messages???  There was only one posting stating that FO's are not part of the Black Scarves.  And he has since recanted.

I for one call you my brother: brother of Vietnam; brother of the Big Red One; brother of the boonies; AND brother of the Black Scarves.

Welcome home brother.

Bob Brown
B/1/2 Black Scarves  
Class of 69/70
John (JJ) Adams
Reply with quote  #132 
n0gungh0,

I was in the FO section of B Co as the RTO and later the recon sgt. I have attended several regimental reunions and at the division reunions I stay in the 2nd Regt CP. I have always been treated as a member. Never has anyone told me I did not belong there. I was given a RAMROD certificate when I left. See attached. The comments you reference have been retracted and an apology given.
Join us on the board, you are one of us.

JJ
DRAC96R
Sep 67 - Jul 68
"Wild Bill"
Reply with quote  #133 
nOgunghO 
As a former Company Commander and a DMOR of this Regiment, you are and will always be considered a member of the 2nd Infantry Regiment and as JJ says "He has always been welcome at our re-unions and in our CP". I hope you will consider attending a re-union and share in our camaraderie. See other postings on this board.

CPT W.K. Benson, USA-Ret
Co B, 2/2 Inf.
12/65-10/66
Roy Marshall
Reply with quote  #134 

  I feel this discussion about the Black Scarf is for the 1/2 only not the 2/2. I have read all the stuff from the 2/2 about the Black Scarf and whom should wear it. The way I feel is if you were with the 1/2 then you can put your input!! I feel if you were not part of us then why all this input? The 1/2 has nothing to say about the 2/2 when a message is posted about the 2/2. I know we are older and I know the 2/2 has it own say so with the 2/2 not the 1/2. You all are on Luther but he did a great job in the Nam. He was a good RTO and one hell of a point men when he was in Recon, you can ask any one. I feel some people don't understand what the Black Scarf around your neck means!!!. So get off my brothers back. If you were made a member by the BN commander that fine but again the 2/2 has nothing to say about the Black Scarf. I want to say wecome back home to all the 1/2 and 2/2. I know Luther is one hell man to trust with your back in the jungle.  

Duck
Reply with quote  #135 
 Now Now "Boys" slow down alittle and smell the "Roses"/ god bless all you kids out there. "Make love not War"/ a hellua easier way to go/ ask goodaim/ Now Roy ; slow down or go smoke a fatty/
                         good nite/ and sleep well
                                                      the Duck
Roy Marshall
Reply with quote  #136 

 

  Duck, I guess your right. How has thing been with you?

 

Duck
Reply with quote  #137 
 Roy I'm doing very well; life is good/ golf game went to sh--/ the last few days/ but besides that god bless the usa/ an F--k the guy in the white house/and the "justice dept. head eric holder"/ two racists bastards/\\
                   the Duck
Mike Ragan
Reply with quote  #138 
Here is a picture of Spc. Charles G Stultz. KIA at Quon Loi, May 12, 1969. If you knew him or know details of his death, please let me know. Thank you.


Mike Ragan
Reply with quote  #139 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Ragan
Here is a picture of Spc. Charles G Stultz. KIA at Quon Loi, May 12, 1969. If you knew him or know details of his death, please let me know. Thank you.


Joe Fair
Reply with quote  #140 
Mike  Ragan

I could not open the photo of Charles Stultz. It's probably me being just plain ignorant on the PC.  Please send to my e-mail address:
regniafair@gmail.com. If I recall Charles I'll be glad to discuss him with you.

Joe Fair

Mike
Here is what I recall and hope this is some value.
To my best recollection Charles Stultz was in our mortar platoon. He along with 2-3 other men were in a bunker that was blown up by an enemy sapper during the ground attack on May 12, 1969 at Quan Loi.
They had fought bravely from the bunker during the heavy ground attack. The next day following the ground attack I was one of the volunteers to recover the bodies from the blown bunker. It was terrible and sad that the men were blown and/or burned beyond recognition. I don't recall Charles. Perhaps a picture would bring back my recollection of him. As I mentioned I believe he was in the mortar platoon. I was in Lima (1st) platoon. Recovering those men from that blown bunker is etched in my memory forever.   



Mike Ragan
Reply with quote  #141 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Fair
Mike  Ragan emailed you the photo of Chuck. Judging by what my Basic Training photo looks like and what his picture looks like, I'd say it was his Basic photo.  If I can get another photo of him while he was in Vietnam, I will send it. Thank you for your help!!! Mike

I could not open the photo of Charles Stultz. It's probably me being just plain ignorant on the PC.  Please send to my e-mail address:
regniafair@gmail.com. If I recall Charles I'll be glad to discuss him with you.

Joe Fair

Mike
Here is what I recall and hope this is some value.
To my best recollection Charles Stultz was in our mortar platoon. He along with 2-3 other men were in a bunker that was blown up by an enemy sapper during the ground attack on May 12, 1969 at Quan Loi.
They had fought bravely from the bunker during the heavy ground attack. The next day following the ground attack I was one of the volunteers to recover the bodies from the blown bunker. It was terrible and sad that the men were blown and/or burned beyond recognition. I don't recall Charles. Perhaps a picture would bring back my recollection of him. As I mentioned I believe he was in the mortar platoon. I was in Lima (1st) platoon. Recovering those men from that blown bunker is etched in my memory forever.   



John Shanks
Reply with quote  #142 

  I just found this board and have joined the association.  I was with  DracAlpha 1/2 from October 68to Oct.69.  Got out early and went home.  Served in the field for 10 months and then served in the rear area as senior man in the company for two months.  I was and still am proud of my time with all the men I served with.  I will always consider us the best.  Looking forward to reading more on this board.  Juan, If you have anymore of those T-Shirts, Let me know. 


  John Shanks 
Roger Beeman
Reply with quote  #143 
Welcome to the board John. You will find many friends here. Hope you can make the Reunion this year in Pigeon Forge.

HHC 2/2 VTR 95  67/68
Juan
Reply with quote  #144 
Well folks I was with the 2/2 and went to Nam with the 2 Bn"s on the same ship so no make no different if you were with the 1/2 or the 2/2 you still part of the 2nd Inf Reg the Best Regiment in the US ARMY today. In 1964 we trained together in the same Quad at Ft Devens. Now all those young Lt's that were (FO's) from the artillery, you are welcome and part of the regiment.
 
As one of the elders of the regiment. I say Welcome Home you'll.
 
Now get ready and attend the reunion in may. Please!!!!! for info contact me.
 
Juan
B/2/2 1964 to 1967.
Vietnam 1965 to 1970.
Mac McPeak
Reply with quote  #145 
To all the Black Scarves:  

Welcome home and job well done.  I have just recently discovered this site (through the good offices of SFC Israel B. Tames--one of the best soldiers of all time--Hell, he could have fought for the Romans.)  Anyway, it gives me a very strange feeling to read your comments about a difficult time so long ago.  Although, in all truth, it sometimes seems like yesterday.  I am glad to see so many of you on line and engaged in keeping up with your comrades. 

A couple of observations from a newbie to the site. It's a little late in the day to throw rocks at comrades for perceived slights (whether real or imagined) after all these years.  Really: what is the point?  We have a shared experience that those who ducked it will never know.  They will go to their graves, thinking, "What if I had gone to Viet Nam?" Personally, I don't give a rat's ass whether you sat in the base camp or conducted stay behind ambushes.  You were THERE and you served with honor.  When the last bugle blows, that's all that counts brothers of the Black Scarf Society. You served when so many didn't.  Those are the ones who deserve your scorn if feel that scorn is due: not our comrades.
Warmest Regards,
Mac McPeak
1/LT, Platoon Leader
C 1/2 1967
Mac McPeak
Reply with quote  #146 
Since it's in the middle of the night and since my prostate is also 67 years old, I am up and thought I'd add a few comments.  Jack Bowman was our FO.  He walked every patrol with us.  We tried like hell to get him a CIB.  He deserved it. Just before he went home, he fell on a shit-smeared punji stake and got a terrible infection. On Junction City, my main guys were: Harvey Chambers, SGT Edwards, Tames (of course), and Haney. LTC William C. Simpson was the Bn CO and was a great soldier.  I saw him at his home in Charleston years later and we went fishing.  Talk about worlds apart. Doc Gerstel was a friend and was killed shortly after I moved  to the BDE 3 shop (Devil), where I talked with Don Holleder and Terry Allen just before they were KIA.  Sgt Ta was a VN cop, whose father, uncle and brother had been killed by the VC.  He was a motivated interrogator. John Brown was the son of the Chief of the Oklahoma band of the Seminoles and struck fear into the hearts of the locals.  He was about 6'4" and wore his hair in a Mohawk and was the same skin color...they had no clue.  We secured the engrs when they rebuilt the bridge at Ton Le Chon SF camp. I also got to see the "role of armor" in the iron Triangle, where the tanks' drive sprockets were so wrapped, we (THE INFANTRY) had to bust our collective asses chopping them free with machetes.

If anyone knows how to contact two of my RTO's I'd appreciate it: Lonzie D. Ferguson (Kentucky?) and ...Heck of ???  Any help would be welcome.

I hope to see you at the reunion.  I've done a lot of things in my life but nothing even comes close to what we did together, even though we overlapped.  I am truly sorry (even in spite of the VA problems) that those who never served will never know our deep satisfaction and true sense of patriotism. NOLI ME TANGERE!
cary wider
Reply with quote  #147 
Much love to all you brothers on patrol out there in the real world.

I often wonder if any of our guys are at the VA hospital I go to?

Martinsburg WV. I'll be out there on the 18th.

When and where is the next reunion?
Joe Fair
Reply with quote  #148 
Hello to John Shanks

John I was also with Alpha 1st 2nd March 1969 to March 1970
I was in Lima Platoon.  I do remember you when I saw your picture in
the 1969 1st 2nd Book. Were you in November Platoon?

Lt. Holtz was my platoon leader.

Cpt Coker our CO

1sg Cabrera our top

My e-mail is regniafair@gmail.com
Home phone is 270-789-1395
I live in Campbellsville, KY

Let's talk.

Thanks

Joe Fair

Larry G
Reply with quote  #149 
Mac McPeak,
 
Welcome home and welcome to the message board.
 
I sent you an e-mail with some information on Heck and Ferguson, hope it is what you are looking for.
 
Larry G
mike ogden
Reply with quote  #150 
 
    Mac McPeak i'd like to say Welcome Home and Welcome to
 
the 2nd Regiment web site, I thank you for your imput.
 
      mike ogden 1/2 Black Scarves Battalion, BRO '68'-'69'
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