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doc Walters
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I went over to RVN, from Ft. Devins, on the Blatchford (we flew from Logan, with our weapons, etc., to SFO and then boarded the Blatchford north of the Golden Gate) and the 2/2 made the only (as far as I know) beach assault landing in RVN of any Army unit; and that was at Vung Tau in early to mid Oct 1965.

 

Anyway, sometime in Sept '66 what was left of us; 2nd Pl, Bravo Co., 2/2 went into Saigon to get the tracks and what I was told were the first M-60 tanks to arrive in RVN. Prior to this, the only tanks that were in RVN where the M-48’s. We were stationed at that time at Phu Loi (PL) and after we picked up the tracks and tanks, we drove back up Hwy 13 to PL. That was the only time I got to sit behind the .50 cal MG as the track commander of the M-113 I was on.

 

It was a hairy ride back to PL as no one really knew how to drive the tracks and tanks and we hit, accidently, a couple of ox carts and bicyclists going back to PL. Going from Infantry to Track over night, it was amazing we did not kill everything on Hwy 13.

 

What is interesting now is that I just looked at a new map of RVN and it does not show Lai Khe and it does not show PL on Hwy 13.

Ted Stowell
Reply with quote  #152 
Hey Doc, I was with you on the Blatchford and I don't remember exactly that our landing at Vung Tau was an "assault"; especially with all the cameras, reporters and VIP's (brass) sitting there waiting for us to come ashore, so they could shake LTC Shuffer's hand and "puff-out" their chests.
   I also remember "climatizing" for several days, in an empty field adjacent to Bien Hoa airbase, waiting for our vehicles and equipment, before heading north via Rt. 13 (Thunder Rd.) to Lai Khe.
   I remember, after we arrived at Lai Khe, doing a lot of digging and filling a lot of sand-bags.
Juan
Reply with quote  #153 
Doc, I was on the ship. I was at Ft Devens in 1964 and trained a whole bunch of guys to go to Vietnam. We have NCO'S from all the units of the 2/2 training troops outside of Ft Devens at a State Park.

We arrived at Vung- Tau from LST's that we got on at the place where the ship was.

We did not assault the Beach, we have a welcome party with lot of Vietnamese girls in their traditional dresses  saying welcome to Vietnam. The 1st Inf Div Band was there so was the CSM of the division with the BN commander and other top brass.

By the way the 2/2 have a bunch of casualties the 1st 2 weeks due to the heat. The ground at Lai Khe was very hard to dig inn. Also we spray agent Orange with fire extinguishers, to clean the field of fire. Last October I was in the same place where I have my foxhole--lot of memories.

From there we flew to Bien Hoa, at Bien Hoa we got in 3/4 ton trucks and went to the grounds of the University of Saigon. We waited 2 weeks for our Equipment to arrived, then we went to Lai Khe.
The tracks arrived in the 1st part of 1967 not 66.
I was with the Brigade S-4 at the time, then I left for another unit (AVN) then I stayed until 1970 never came home.
Larry G
Reply with quote  #154 

Doc Walters is right about the APC's! The 2/2 started training and getting them during the period 17 July to 31 December 1966. The battalion was officially designated a mechanized infantry battalion on 2 January 1967 and operated as one until the battalion stood down at Di An in the March/April 1970 time frame.

Also Phu Loi was not on Hwy 13, Phu Cuong was and that is where you turned east to go to Phu Loi.

Ted Stowell
Reply with quote  #155 
Larry,
   When did the 1st Bn/2d Inf (from Devens) rotate and deploy to Nam?  I remember that personnel from the 1st Bn. were transferred to the 2d Bn. because Dept. of the Army (in their infinite wisdom) decided that draftees (U.S.)with less than 6 months till their ETS were not to deploy to RVN.  I also remember this decision was made after we had undergone intensive training with the men and getting replacements from the 1st Bn. that we had no time to train before shipping-out.
   I also remember that the Blatchford lost an engine after 2 days at sea and what would have been normally 6 days sailing to Okinawa, took 17 days.  I remember restricted to the docks at Okinawa, while repairs were being made and watching several movies, on the wharf.
Larry G
Reply with quote  #156 
Ted,

The 2 battalions departed Fort Devens for California on 25 September 1965.  There they boarded ship and sailed for Vietnam arriving on 16 October 1965. 
Ted Stowell
Reply with quote  #157 
Larry,
  I remember leaving on 25 Sep 1965 but I don't remember the 1/2 leaving then; in fact, they didn't have enough personnel to deploy, after we received the replacements for our draftees, that were released.
   I remember the line of sewing machines, on our side of the quadrangle but not on their side.
  My memory could possibly be faulty and if so, where did they locate?  I know it wasn't Lai Khe because the 1/4 Cav, 28 Inf, 16th Inf and 2/2 Inf formed the defensive perimeter around 3d Bde. HQ and the 105 Arty Battery.
Ted
Larry G
Reply with quote  #158 
After arriving they were flown to Bien Hoa and then on 22 October 1965 went to Phouc Vinh with the 1st Brigade.
Juan
Reply with quote  #159 
Ted, we had members of the 1/2 Bn with us on the ship. I know few of them.
 By the way my R.T.O have less than 6 month left in the army when he deploy to Nam with us.

After the Battle of Ap-Na-Mat on 5 Dec 1965, he have only 11 days left in the army. He pick up 3 purple hearts in 39 hrs.

He past away in 1982 at a VA hospital in West Virginia.

His name was Orville Gene Adkins. He was with me since 1964 when I got to the unit.
Ted Stowell
Reply with quote  #160 
1. Larry,
    Thank you for clearing up the confusion about the 1/2 and their location.
     Ted
2. Juan,
    I'm sorry to hear that Adkins passed-away.  I never said ALL soldiers, with less than 6 months were not deployed; I said that all U.S. (draftee) personnel, with less than 6 monthe were not deployed.  I'm sure of that because I lost half of my FDC section, in the 4.2" Mortar Platoon.
     Ted
Larry G
Reply with quote  #161 

 

Ted,

What follows is a truncated version of what was going on in the period from 1962 until the 1st Infantry Division deployed to Vietnam. On 19 February 1962 the 1st Battalion, 2nd Infantry was activated, for the first time since June 1957, with the 2nd Brigade, 5th Division and the 2nd Battle Group, 2nd Infantry was redesignated and reassigned for the 24th Division in Germany to the 2nd Brigade, 5th Division. In the summer of 1963 the divisions and infantry units were still changing from the Pentomic organization to ROADS. The 1 ID had 8 infantry Battalions/Battle Groups and 2 armored battalions. In February one infantry unit was inactivated so that left 7 infantry battalions and 2 armor battalions. Two of the units were mechanized, the 1/26 and 1/28. On 14 April 1965 the I ID was ordered to send one brigade to Vietnam within 30 days. General Jonathan O. Seaman chose the 2nd Brigade and wanted it to be the best manned, armed and equipped possible. The 1st and 3rd Brigades were stripped of weapons, vehicles, ammo and etc. The 1/18, 2/18 and 2/16 were in the 2nd Brigade and they left for Vietnam in late June 1965. The 1 ID was then ordered to deploying the balance of the division, but had to leave the 2 mechanized infantry battalions APC’s behind and also the 2 armored battalions, 1/63 and 2/63. Now the division needed 2 more infantry battalions and on 12 July 1965 the 1st and 2nd Battalion, 2nd Infantry were reassigned to the 1 ID. The division was short 250 officers and 3,000 enlisted men in July, this shortage was overcome by stripping soldiers from units not scheduled to deploy. Things were moving very rapidly, turnovers were high, families had to be provided for and etc. The advanced party went to Vietnam during August-September 1965 and the troops and equipment were moved to California.

As an FYI, the 2
nd Battle Group, 2nd Infantry (2/2) was assigned to the 1st Infantry Division from 1 June 1957 to 28 January 1959.



Ted Stowell
Reply with quote  #162 
Larry,
   Thanks again; the older we get, the less sharp the memory.  By the way, if you or any other 2/2 vets have any information on (then) SP5 Richard Patterson or (then) SP4 Jerome Karcher, I'd appreciate a heads-up or FYI.
Ted
Larry G
Reply with quote  #163 

Ted,

I have a roster with close to 2500 names for the 2/2, not all with contact information, unfortunately those are 2 I do not have information for.

BCC
Reply with quote  #164 
Ted,
How old is jerome Karcher.  There is one in AZ (Formerly NY) who is 72.  One in CA at 61.  Both Viet Nam age.
Ted Stowell
Reply with quote  #165 
The individual in Arizona sounds like 1 of the men I'm looking for since the Jerome Karcher I knew was from Lake Ronkona, NY.
   If you have any contact info. for him, I'd appreciate getting same.
Thank you,
Ted
BCC
Reply with quote  #166 
Check this link on zabasearch.  Good luck with a good phone number.  No joy here.  The 44 yr old may be a son.

http://www.zabasearch.com/people/jerome-karcher/az/
BCC
Reply with quote  #167 
Ted,

I just talked with the ex Mrs. K.  She will try to get son to reach his dad and bring him to the web page here, and hopefully email you thru this board.  Definitely Arizona.
Ted Stowell
Reply with quote  #168 
Thank you; I appreciate all your help and it was great talking to you last night.
   I haven't been able to attend any of the Pigeon Forge reunions but hope to make it next year.
Ted
HOYT CLABURN
Reply with quote  #169 
LARRY YOU SAID YOU HAD A LIST WITH NAMES AND CONTACTS. WOULD YOU PLEASE CHECK AND SEE IF YOU HAVE JAMES ANDREW'S . HE WAS WITH C CO 1st PLATOON BEFORE INJURY. WOUNDED 4th JUNE 66. I THINK HE WAS SUPPLY HHC AFTER BEING WOUNDED. HE WAS FROM ATLANTA GA. THANKS  
Larry G
Reply with quote  #170 
Hoyt,

He is on the roster but there is no contact information. I checked Zaba Search and there are numerous James Andrews in GA that could fit the bill.

I arrived at HHC 2/2 in late July 1966 and was originally put into supply, if you want to call a GP medium that, because they needed help cleaning it up and I was at the time a "free agent".  There was not an Andrews while I was there.
HOYT CLABURN
Reply with quote  #171 
THANKS my mind is a little fuzzy on dates and events. I know for sure he was wounded on june 4th 66. at that time he was 1st platoon c co 2/2 . I got sick with  typhus early july and was gone from platoon 5 weeks.Last time i saw James he was with HHC but I am not for sure 100.%. I had been moved to b co 2/2 as senior aidman. I have tried to locate him in atlanta but no luck thanks         
Dennis Sentelle
Reply with quote  #172 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry G

 If i remember correctly we were in the fifth infantry at fort Devens and assigned to the first infantry. I was with the 2/2 HHC maint I went over on the blachford and if you stayed on the docks in Okinawa that was your fault. My platoon Sargent formed us into a formation and we marched right out the gate,Also got into a big fight in a bar and i can remember the walls falling down in that bar.and standing at the bottom of the gang plank as guys were throwing bottles of whiskey down that was being taken from them as they entered the ship.Also when we landed in Vietnam when we left the ship i can remember not knowing what to expect when we hit shore only to have a band playing.We lost our first Kia on the convoy to Lai Khe a young Spec/4 barley out of high school.I was a M-60 machine gunner in the motor pool use to ride on the back of the wrecker truck with the M-60 mounted on the back. Anyone in  the Motor Pool or others that remember me please contact me by e mail. I have been trying to get VA benifits for two cancers that i have had in the last five years,Prostate and esposgael in the same year. Thank you agent orange.  God Bless all of you who served

Ted,

What follows is a truncated version of what was going on in the period from 1962 until the 1st Infantry Division deployed to Vietnam. On 19 February 1962 the 1st Battalion, 2nd Infantry was activated, for the first time since June 1957, with the 2nd Brigade, 5th Division and the 2nd Battle Group, 2nd Infantry was redesignated and reassigned for the 24th Division in Germany to the 2nd Brigade, 5th Division. In the summer of 1963 the divisions and infantry units were still changing from the Pentomic organization to ROADS. The 1 ID had 8 infantry Battalions/Battle Groups and 2 armored battalions. In February one infantry unit was inactivated so that left 7 infantry battalions and 2 armor battalions. Two of the units were mechanized, the 1/26 and 1/28. On 14 April 1965 the I ID was ordered to send one brigade to Vietnam within 30 days. General Jonathan O. Seaman chose the 2nd Brigade and wanted it to be the best manned, armed and equipped possible. The 1st and 3rd Brigades were stripped of weapons, vehicles, ammo and etc. The 1/18, 2/18 and 2/16 were in the 2nd Brigade and they left for Vietnam in late June 1965. The 1 ID was then ordered to deploying the balance of the division, but had to leave the 2 mechanized infantry battalions APC’s behind and also the 2 armored battalions, 1/63 and 2/63. Now the division needed 2 more infantry battalions and on 12 July 1965 the 1st and 2nd Battalion, 2nd Infantry were reassigned to the 1 ID. The division was short 250 officers and 3,000 enlisted men in July, this shortage was overcome by stripping soldiers from units not scheduled to deploy. Things were moving very rapidly, turnovers were high, families had to be provided for and etc. The advanced party went to Vietnam during August-September 1965 and the troops and equipment were moved to California.

As an FYI, the 2
nd Battle Group, 2nd Infantry (2/2) was assigned to the 1st Infantry Division from 1 June 1957 to 28 January 1959.



Dennis Sentelle
Reply with quote  #173 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pfc Jon W. Minard 65

I saw some names from 1965 -66 I remember. I was at both Bau Bang and Apnah Mat where I was wounded and evacuated. Would like to hear from more of you. I am about to retire from the Postal Service. I have three grandsons who may be asking questions someday. My son was a Coast Guardsman.Iwas was the grenadier for 2nd Platoon.

Jon, I would also like to contact some of the guys,but my memory is not well enough to remember to many names. I was trying to remember the 1st Lt. that i drove for also i can't think of how to spell his name it was Mullaul or something like that also Sgt Quntill I was there from 1965-Aug 1966.When the Motor pool would have to send out patrols. I would lead them as i had Infantry training and also served as a recon scout with the 1st recon squadron of the 9th Cav first Cav division in the DMZ in Korea
Larry G
Reply with quote  #174 

Dennis,

The 1st LT's name is Vincent M. Maulella.   I do not have any other information other than the name.  Perhaps someone out there can provide more.

Larry G

BCC
Reply with quote  #175 
I did a phone # search.  Tried the nimbers.  No joy.  Out of service.
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